Now it’s Unterüberbacher. Nicole (Neumann) changed her last name on her Instagram account in the last few hours, perhaps as a way to shout to her more than two million followers that she is moving away from her mother, Claudia Neumann.. From Tenerife, Spain, where she has lived for two years, the mother of the jury The eight steps of the three million talked with THE NATION and assured that he cannot identify when the break in the relationship between the two occurred. In turn, she said that she would like to meet his grandson who will be born in May, although she believes it will be difficult.
There were only two months left before Claudia turned 19 when, on October 31, 1980, she became Nicole’s mother, the result of her relationship with the Austrian ski instructor and businessman Bernd Unterüberbacher. Seven months later, the couple separated and mother and daughter grew up together. Without a father figure present, it was the model’s maternal grandfather who accompanied and helped them, to the point that he accompanied her granddaughter to her altar at her first wedding, in 2005, to Nacho Herrero.
Together with Geraldine, three years younger than Nicole, they had a good relationship, they were even “confident” within what a mother and daughter can be, according to Claudia. However, something broke and They haven’t spoken for almost three years.. He even found out about the marriage between his daughter and Manu Ucera and the pregnancy through the press. Regarding whether there was a talk or discussion that ended the relationship, the grandmother of Indiana (15), Allegra (14) and Sienna (10) was forceful: “No, she is not one of the people who sits down to have a coffee to talk”.
Still incredulous – but also calmer – about the impact that the note she gave to Show Partnersin which she treated her daughter as “ungrateful” after she accused her of keeping her money, Claudia, convinced by her friend Soraya Widmer, told this medium details about what her relationship with her daughter was like and how she handled herself. the money the model earned when she was a minor.
–When did you last see each other?
–I have been here for two years and it was half a year before that we were at the house taking care of the girls; because she was good, that’s what we were and served for (she jokes about her role and that of Javier, her partner for eleven years).
–And that last time there was an argument and that’s why they didn’t see each other again?
–Face to face it was never anything, I always found out through the media. Afterwards we didn’t talk anymore and I moved away. My farewell to the girls before leaving the country was at Fabián (Cubero) and Mica (Viciconte)’s house. Not that it was anything on purpose on his part, but if we didn’t do that, I wouldn’t say goodbye to my granddaughters.
–Are you in contact with them?
–A little more with the largest one. They call Javier (his partner) grandfather and we hope they grow up and can come visit. We sometimes talk to Indiana, who is the one who takes care of us; We haven’t spoken to Allegra and Sienna in a while.
–So, did you find out about the marriage and pregnancy from your granddaughter, from Geraldine or from the media?
–By the press, and they asked me if I was going to go if they paid for my ticket, and they didn’t invite me! And besides, he’s not going to deny that because he can’t. I hope that everything goes great, that she has the man she wanted so much and that he is happy, and at the same time that he leaves me alone. He had said something before that he got married and that he was surely going to have another child, but after that he didn’t tell me when it happened. I imagined all this would happen because he doesn’t have children. I met him at Allegra’s communion with Manu, but I can’t say anything, and at that time they were officially a couple but they weren’t close to getting married or anything.
–Were you surprised by the impact of your sayings? Did you read something?
—I was surprised because it is vintage, I looked at some things. Unfortunately it echoed a lot, it wasn’t my idea.
–After that was there any kind of contact between Nicole and you?
—No.
–Did you talk to Geraldine about this issue now that everything has resurfaced in the media?
–No, because the truth is that I don’t want to put it in. She is the sister, they get along well, for what? Gegé is always the conciliator. She had her fight with her sister too, I say this because it was something that was public.
–And with Fabián Cubero?
-Less. Just because he speaks well of Fabián does not mean that he speaks every day. I have a good relationship with him and his family, it was ten years. I get along great with my mother, we talk like grandmothers. The things between them (Nicole and Cuero) are their issues. We were always fine with him.
–Now, specifically, Nicole said that you had kept her money from the time in which you represented her…
–I was surprised because, I mean: so many years and it’s still the same! He calms down for a decade and then comes back with the same thing.
–But was that a topic already discussed between you? Has he never sat down with you to discuss it with you over coffee?
–She’s not much of a talker over coffee. She doesn’t talk to me but to the press. I found out through the media.
Lolita at 12, house and car at 18 and her mother as representative
“We don’t know where the money went”the model and host said a few days ago in reference to the earnings from her work while she was a minor and had her mother’s representation.
–Regarding her statements, how was the management of the money she earned as a minor?
–From 12 to 15 I accompanied her everywhere and at 15 I began to be her representative. That’s why I charged a commission. I heard her say: “how horrible,” but I accompanied her because she couldn’t be alone and we had to live.
–Were you working at that time?
–I graduated as a psychologist, I taught at the University of Belgrano and I had to accompany her. So I left my career for hers, and it turned out quite well for her. At 18 she had her house, her car, her horses at the equestrian club.
–Why did you stop representing it?
–At 18, with a boyfriend who suggested it to her and represented her and that’s when she started to earn more money, because there was the fantasy that they made a fortune. Before she earned well but at that later time more and I no longer had anything to do with it. It was when she published several covers of important magazines.
–And with the money she made at that time, did she support the family?
–No, he didn’t support the family. But he wanted horses, forty days of vacation in Punta del Este, all of that had to be paid for. Anyway, I already knew Punta because I had been there since I was three years old.
–And before she started earning money, what was her life like?
—We weren’t having a bad time, but we had a normal time. Think that I was a single mother with two daughters, because her father showed up on her 17th just after her. My father helped me.
–When you started accompanying her, did you know anything about the environment or did you have to learn?
-No, nothing. I was more into books than into art. I knew people who worked in advertising and we rode horses at the club. Once they needed people in the background and I participated, I was about 17, but nothing more than that.
–Were there reproaches for having worked as a girl?
–No, if he loved it. The reproaches were always related to money. There are always people who tell you things…
–Something like ‘the champion’s friends?’
-Yeah.
–Until he was 18, then, the relationship was good. Were they confidants, did they tell each other things?
–Yes, like any mother and daughter. Things started to get complicated when she became known and people started hitting her. She didn’t burn out stages either, she went to sleep at 9 p.m., she watched cartoons, she went to school and the club, she led a normal life. I can’t identify when the break between us occurred. Until she was 17 or 18 she lived with me. Afterwards there were good and bad times, I went to live in another country for a while, so did she. We coincided when Indi, the eldest, was born. We were closer to her, her arrival brought us closer. Later, every time she traveled we were the ones who stayed with her daughters.
–She walked away from you more or less at the same time she approached her father, do you think there is a connection there?
–How lucky they get along! He was missing for 17 years. When Nicole was 15 we were in Paris… I never told it, but I was the one who told her to call him and then she did and they got closer.
–Leaving the past and thinking about the future, Nicole’s baby is born in May, would you like there to be a closer relationship and for you to be able to meet him?
–With her you never know. Of course I would like to, but I find it difficult.
A girl with a promising future
Nicole never had to tell her mother that she wanted to be a model. Things happened sooner rather than later and without either of them planning it. Although it may seem trite, the model’s premature fame was not sought, but according to Claudia, she was always comfortable and never renounced the flashes.
–What was your daughter’s first job? At what age?
–I was four years old. I didn’t take her, but there was a girl who was a babysitter who asked me for permission to take photos to an agency where a friend of hers worked. I told him yes. They called her for a casting and thus she made her first publicity. Then the two continued doing things. Geraldine debuted the two in an advertisement in which she said ‘eat apples’, when she didn’t even eat apples. She liked that. You can’t force a boy. They loved her, except that Nicole didn’t talk much because she was shy.
–And at 12, the famous Lolita cover with which everything exploded. How was that?
–At 11, I went to a casting for an advertisement with both of them and they told me that Nicole was already big, so they put her in Geraldine, but the director told me to take her to a modeling agency next to Kids. Once a photographer took pictures of it and the rest came out. Everything happened at the moment, it happened, I didn’t plan it.
–How was such an exhibition experienced?
–It was terrible, but hey, you adapt. Every time I went to school the kids shouted ‘mother-in-law’ at me. It was inevitable. But there were also the criticisms. I suddenly went from being calm to everyone having an opinion about my life, it was strange.
–And how did she live it?
–I was happy. At a Giordano show, after she passed by, he asked her to return to the catwalk. I remember that I looked at her and died and instead she came out of life happy. It’s something you have, that you bring with you (fame and exposure). I never liked her, she doesn’t suit me.
–I already asked, but I repeat, did you ever reproach yourself for anything about it, like having worked since you were so young?
–No, he never reneged.