Talks between Degal and Belza towards the end of the ideological dispute The brokers and the offer

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After weeks of fears that ‘Torah Judaism’ was heading for a historic split due to ideological disputes, it seems that the saga is being resolved, when meetings are being held on the part of Gado’i and on the administrative level to run jointly | And, the exchange of accusations in the stormy meeting of the secretaries-general:We were your ‘Shabas Goy'”

The deadline for the submission of lists to the 25th Knesset is fast approaching, and in the ‘Torah Judaism’ party, preparations are being made for an agreement to run together.

Now it seems that the claims on the part of “Degal HaTorah” of “ideological” differences with “Agudat Israel”, especially on the issue of education with Belza, will be answered in a direct dialogue that is going on these days between elements of Hasidism in Belza and the members of the house of the head of the Yeshiva Geri G. Edelstein.

Bachderi Haredim learned that at the meeting that took place yesterday between the heads of Torah Judaism Moshe Gafni and Yitzhak Goldknopf at the Degal HaTorah house in Bnei Brak, a proposal was made on Gafni’s part that would also bring a solution to the “ideological” problems that were claimed.

If the outline of which ‘Bahadari Haredim’ learned about is agreed upon between the parties, then it will provide an answer to the claims of ‘Degal HaTorah’ that the school curriculum in the institutions in Laza results in damage to the ultra-Orthodox education.

According to the proposal formulated by Gafni’s office, in Belza they will not actually join the curriculum they created with the Ministries of Education and Finance, a “budgeting by objectives” program that increases extracurriculars in institutions, a move that is already running into legal problems, the Minister of Education Yifat Shasha Biton has not yet signed the call approving the implementation of the reform . On the other hand, the Torah Flag will sign that the entire Torah Judaism undertakes to find an adequate solution to the plight of the Hasidic educational institutions in Gaza and even condition it on the party’s entry into the coalition.

Gaffney, Eichler and Asher. Photo: Olivia Pitosi, Flash 90.

Let’s just mention that originally the Hasidim in Alza demanded to join the ‘independent education’ but in the Lithuanian ‘Deg’ they refused to comply with the demand, and even attacked them on top of their expression ‘loyal stake’ after they took the step with the Ministry of Education.

Degal even went a step further and are asking Belza to commit that even if Minister Shasha Biton signs the call, they will commit not to join the program until a solution is found. On the other hand, senior officials in Belza tell ‘Bhaderi Haredim’ that the only acceptable solution is to merge the institutions for independent education, when even then an apology will be required for the serious injury to the honor of the Rebbe of Belza for all the attacks by Degal who ignored the order of the senior Rebbe to implement the plan following The severe distress in the institutions.

In the ultra-Orthodox rooms, it was learned that in the negotiations that have been going on under the radar for the past few days, Moti Plai, the grandson and trustee of the house of Rabbi Hagari Edelstein, and on the part of Belza, the Gaon Rabbi Avraham Dierenfeld, and Rabbi Reuven Bereish, CEO of the Belza Institutions, are partners. , a member of the Committee of Eight, when Rabbi David Shapira, the grandson of Maran HaGrail Steinman, zt’l, and Rabbi of Modi’in Illit, Rabbi Meir Kessler, are also involved in the contacts.

Bechadari Haredim also learned that while only tomorrow (Thursday) they will meet for the first formal negotiation meeting, already last week the secretaries of the parties, Moshe Shipman from Degal HaTorah and Hanoch Seibert from Agudat Israel, were scheduled for the first negotiation meeting , where they raised the various demands for the negotiation talks that will practically begin tomorrow in a meeting that will also be joined by Knesset members Uri Makleb and Meir Proosh.

Eichler and Prosh. Photo: Aharon Krahan, Flash 90.

At a meeting last week, Moshe Shipman presented the problems facing the Hasidic faction and claimed that Agudat Israel within it had been operating in a divided manner for the past year, “Gafni would conclude things with Litzman before the faction’s meeting, then he came to the meeting and Eichler and Forosh would make changes and demand demands.” Seibert replied to him that since there is a new representative on behalf of the Gur Hasidic, from now on the faction will operate in cooperation with the designated representative Yitzhak Goldknopf acting jointly with the other representatives in contrast to his predecessor Yaakov Litzman who was in a prolonged disconnection with some of the representatives.

Another claim raised by Degal HaTorah is that “According to the existing agreement, Agudat Israel receives both the first place and the senior position, that it receives the position of minister”, Seibert replied in an attack: “We were your ‘Shabes Goy’ and we took ministers, You are invited to choose ministers yourself, you choose the first position”, Shipman replied: “But Gafni wants the chairmanship of the finance committee”.

On these levels it seems that the factions are on the way to understanding, even on the fundamental issues between ‘Degal’ and Hasidism in Elza it seems to be going to a solution and also on the issue of the locations it seems that in ‘Degal’ overall they want to secure Gafni’s position as head of the finance committee, and not to discuss changes in the order of places. Which increases the scenario that in three weeks Degal HaTorah and Agudat Israel will jointly submit a unified list and run together under the unified Torah Judaism faction for the next Knesset.

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