Bnei Gantz: “I have demands from Abu Mazen, the talks between us are not for Avi-Dabi”

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Defense Minister Bnei Gantz said in a holiday interview to Walla! Because the talks between him and the chairman of the Palestinian Authority, Abu Mazen, are not for Avi-Dabi. “I have demands from him as the leader of the Palestinian people.” “Violence, this struggle is not always convenient for us, to go to court in The Hague and call us an apartheid state is not right, to condemn terrorism is important, to pay terrorists wrong, so we have arguments, but the talks are respectable.”

Ganz hosted a Walla! For a talk on leadership and leaders, during which he spoke about the great leaders of the Jewish people for generations, from Moshe Rabbeinu, through David Ben-Gurion, to Benjamin Netanyahu and Naftali Bennett, and about military, political and political leadership. He said that even if the prime minister had continued to meet with Abu Mazen, with the aim of “producing a better attribution reality”: “I look at leaders in the past, Begin wanted to see it as autonomy, Rabin called it a minus state,” he says. “And I recognize the need to maintain a reality of two political entities when the State of Israel has security supremacy over the entire space, each deals with its own, the economy is common, and the separation is political rather than territorial and Palestinian continuity and governance based on transportation infrastructure will allow it.” He added that “what I am trying to produce is a more positive reality. It is very difficult to reach peace but let’s at least try to live in peace.”

Asked if Abu Mazen is the partner in the process, he replied that “whoever heads the Palestinian Authority is the partner and whoever tries to fight the State of Israel will snatch one epic dose from me.” Against the background of the wave of terror and last week’s events at Joseph’s Tomb, the Defense Minister acknowledged that “Palestinian Authority control is not optimal. We encourage them to increase their governance in areas that are less governed by northern Samaria. “Their level of governance is higher, so we should not engage in them and we want to be a safe and just Jewish and democratic state, and that is what we want to focus on and not manage the Palestinians.”

Returning to Israeli politics and leadership, Ganz said that what makes a leader grow in his generation “is the ability to implement permanent and significant decisions sometimes contrary to what is expected of them,” naming First Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion and former Prime Minister Menachem Begin. Egypt “), Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin (” considered a military man and a debater all his life but sought peace “), Ariel Sharon (” made the disengagement from Gaza “) and Ehud Barak (” who decided to withdraw from Lebanon and cut a mental state that lasted decades “).

Listen to “Conversation on Leadership with Defense Minister Bnei Gantz” on Spreaker.

Asked if Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is a great leader, he replied that “Netanyahu is a very skilled political leader. The work, emphasizing divisions across the author. ” He said, “The goals he has set for himself for the security of the State of Israel and its security and economic power are certainly in place. I disagree with the non-state political path he has pursued in recent years in particular.”

In answer to a question about other leaders in the contemporary political arena, Gantz mentions three names: Netanyahu, Shas chairman Aryeh Deri, and his former partner, Yesh Atid chairman Yair Lapid. “Netanyahu is re-elected to the Likud every time, and when you look at a man like Aryeh Deri who has been in politics for decades and formed an entire camp around him, you can not say that this is not leadership. “Or I do not have with him, I appreciate his political leadership and everyone works in his own variety.” However, when asked if Lapid is the leader of the center-left today, he replied: “I do not necessarily give him the title of leader of the center-left. He is a leader who has a future and electorally he has the wider scope.”

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